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Todd Cordell
New Jersey Devils
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.05.2011

Aug 10 @ 3:15 PM ET
Todd Cordell: Cory Schneider Snubbed From NHL 15's Top-50
FourFeathers773
Joined: 12.02.2011

Aug 10 @ 3:19 PM ET
Career backups don't usually get put ahead of good starters

This conversation should be had next year after Schneider's first full season as a #1
grand-magus
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "...i'd say you were high on mushrooms", GMTM, NY
Joined: 06.06.2014

Aug 10 @ 3:25 PM ET
Todd Cordell: Cory Schneider Snubbed From NHL 15's Top-50
- Todd.Cordell



As he should be.


I mean, really? "Snubbed"?
Todd Cordell
New Jersey Devils
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.05.2011

Aug 10 @ 3:32 PM ET
As he should be.


I mean, really? "Snubbed"?

- grand-magus


I love Rask. I think he's the best in the league.

But your logic is this: Lesser SV% and GAA, couple more starts a year warrants a top-3 goalie rating.

Better SV%, GAA, 2-3 less starts a year = not top-11 goaltender?

Again, not saying he's Rask. But he's certainly better than some of the guys listed higher.
JVR_42_PK81
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.20.2014

Aug 10 @ 3:41 PM ET
I love Rask. I think he's the best in the league.

But your logic is this: Lesser SV% and GAA, couple more starts a year warrants a top-3 goalie rating.

Better SV%, GAA, 2-3 less starts a year = not top-11 goaltender?

Again, not saying he's Rask. But he's certainly better than some of the guys listed higher.

- Todd.Cordell


I agree. I would take Schnider over Crawford. Just on the fact Schnider has the potential to be something great.
digitalbath
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Detroit, MI
Joined: 07.09.2011

Aug 10 @ 3:41 PM ET
I was way more shocked that Kane was as low as he is.. Like how is Kessler ranked higher?
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Aug 10 @ 3:52 PM ET
I was way more shocked that Kane was as low as he is.. Like how is Kessler ranked higher?
- digitalbath

Thought the exact same thing.
bluenatic411
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 01.14.2013

Aug 10 @ 3:56 PM ET
He also got snubbed by the author, who chose to post a picture of Corey Crawford instead of Cory Schneider. No respect.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Aug 10 @ 3:57 PM ET
He also got snubbed by the author, who chose to post a picture of Corey Crawford instead of Cory Schneider. No respect.
- bluenatic411

I think Todd is implying that Schneider > Crawford.
Oilers4Life14
Detroit Red Wings
Location: ON
Joined: 03.06.2013

Aug 10 @ 4:02 PM ET
Guys... EA is poop... Ovi isn't a LW but he's the top LW in that game. It's annoying af but it doesn't matter.
Todd Cordell
New Jersey Devils
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.05.2011

Aug 10 @ 4:03 PM ET
I think Todd is implying that Schneider > Crawford.
- rangerdanger94


Also there's no picture of Schneider available
Todd Cordell
New Jersey Devils
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.05.2011

Aug 10 @ 4:04 PM ET
I was way more shocked that Kane was as low as he is.. Like how is Kessler ranked higher?
- digitalbath


I'd take Kane over Kesler. I think anyone would. Don't understand it.
Oilers4Life14
Detroit Red Wings
Location: ON
Joined: 03.06.2013

Aug 10 @ 4:13 PM ET
Oh and not to mention the NHL franchise is poop.. so many issues with game modes / goalies / glitchers
FLdevilsFAN
New Jersey Devils
Location: Balls Deep, AK
Joined: 07.08.2010

Aug 10 @ 4:18 PM ET
High stick side = goal 90% of the time.
dps0610
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: Raleigh, NC
Joined: 03.04.2014

Aug 10 @ 4:23 PM ET
What has he done? Not much in comparison to those before him. Not every team has an 89 overall starter in net. Not saying he can't prove his worth this year, and their ratings are dynamic, so if he does well he will get boosted through out the season.

And to those complaining about the ratings: 1) see above, 2) 200 ft players always will rate higher than those who have one area of expertise. It's simple averages at that point. Tho, I have to say, Staal and Hall are highly overratedit would seem.
Oilers4Life14
Detroit Red Wings
Location: ON
Joined: 03.06.2013

Aug 10 @ 4:26 PM ET
High stick side = goal 90% of the time.
- FLdevilsFAN


Pull back wrister high glove side = 100% of the time lol
Erik6Karlsson5
Ottawa Senators
Location: It's Knuckle Puck Time.., NB
Joined: 01.23.2013

Aug 10 @ 4:34 PM ET
Todd Cordell: Cory Schneider Snubbed From NHL 15's Top-50
- Todd.Cordell


And...
edwinsagain
Buffalo Sabres
Location: concord, NC
Joined: 09.11.2006

Aug 10 @ 4:47 PM ET
Great... But where's Lieuwen???
FLdevilsFAN
New Jersey Devils
Location: Balls Deep, AK
Joined: 07.08.2010

Aug 10 @ 5:24 PM ET
Pull back wrister high glove side = 100% of the time lol
- Oilers4Life14

Smitty98
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.16.2012

Aug 10 @ 5:45 PM ET
I agree. I would take Schnider over Crawford. Just on the fact Schnider has the potential to be something great.
- JVR_42_PK81

I'll take the guy who's won a cup and is a proven playoff performer. When Schneider wins a playoff series, we'll come back to that discussion.
JIwasinskiJr
Boston Bruins
Location: Ludlow, MA
Joined: 02.09.2011

Aug 10 @ 5:52 PM ET
These rating are always crap.
For instance.

Crosby Def awareness 95. Stick checking 92
OVI def awareness 85. Stkchck 88
Malkin 85. 88.

Kopitar 89. 88.
Toews 94. 93.
Dats 93. 92
Bergeron 92. 90.
Chara 91. 92.


Anyone with a brain would acknowledge that Crosby probably should NOT have a higher d awareness or stick check than ANY OF THE SECOND GROUP. But, the golden child does.

And OVI is, arguably one of the worst defenders in the league. Lets say even second half of the league.....hmmm, pretty good for someone so average at best.

Kopitar and Chara really got hosed on these two stats.

EA is all about the overall rating and how they are ranking the players in the NHL. If it was based on actual ATTRIBUTES it would be drastically different.

Video games can't mimic real world sports in many things.
Some players just give it there all all the time on the ice, other player only parts of the time, and that's one of the things that these game ranking can't compute. At least not yet.
SimpleJack
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago , IL
Joined: 05.23.2013

Aug 10 @ 6:09 PM ET
Kane's ranking is absolutely ridiculous.
Tanuki
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.27.2010

Aug 10 @ 6:14 PM ET
I'll take the guy who's won a cup and is a proven playoff performer. When Schneider wins a playoff series, we'll come back to that discussion.
- Smitty98


But Schneider's one playoff victory is worth several cups...
jackzack87
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.26.2010

Aug 10 @ 6:22 PM ET
It's not a "snub". While he may be individually as good as most of the guys on that list, he has yet to put together the body of work the rest of them had. Being a solid #2 behind Marty B for a half season does not a top 50 make.

Comparing him to a guy who already won it all and came to the 7th game of the conference finals (and would have beaten the Rangers, had they beaten the Kings)...it's homerism. Let's pull out of that vein and put on some clear lenses.

Honestly I think CS will be a top 15 goalie this year. But it's asinine to place him, untested, in that echelon.
bobert836
New Jersey Devils
Location: Buying a dolphin and putting it in your swimming pool makes more sense, BC
Joined: 06.19.2010

Aug 10 @ 6:42 PM ET
It's not a "snub". While he may be individually as good as most of the guys on that list, he has yet to put together the body of work the rest of them had. Being a solid #2 behind Marty B for a half season does not a top 50 make.

Comparing him to a guy who already won it all and came to the 7th game of the conference finals (and would have beaten the Rangers, had they beaten the Kings)...it's homerism. Let's pull out of that vein and put on some clear lenses.

Honestly I think CS will be a top 15 goalie this year. But it's asinine to place him, untested, in that echelon.

- jackzack87


Thats his point there genius
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